sexta-feira, 26 de outubro de 2007

Valores e símbolos sérvios

Caro Pedro,
Sendo o Kosovo o berço da nacionalidade sérvia é, pelo menos, um argumento forte, para defender a coesão do Estado sérvio, não?
A mania de no Ocidente fazerem dos sérvios os maus da fita dos Balcãs já cansa e deturpa uma realidade histórica. Basta recordar o que o amigo ocidental Tito fazia aos sérvios.

11 comentários:

Luís Bonifácio disse...

Atenção que a Russia de hoje não é a Russia de há 10 anos atrás.

Pedro Sá disse...

Este deve ser o post mais disparatado que alguma vez escreveste:

1. O argumento do berço da nacionalidade é ridículo. Não vejo ninguém com credibilidade reivindicar que o Monte Ararat deixe de fazer parte da Turquia para ser cedido à Arménia, por exemplo.

2. A questão não é de maus da fita, porque o mau da fita não é o povo sérvio. O mau da fita era um desequilibrado mental chamado Milošević.

3. Tu é que achas que os sérvios são os bons da fita e todos os outros os maus da fita, caso contrário não caías como um patinho nessa propaganda sérvia de que o Tito fez-lhes mal.

Ou acreditas na conversa de que para existir Vojvodina e Kosovo também tinham que existir Istra e Dalmacija ?

Ou acreditas que o Tito é que meteu albaneses na Jugoslávia ?

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CMC disse...

Caro Pedro,
Não tenho as tuas elevadas-qualificações para qualificar comentários. Apenas alcanço entabular diálogo.
No entanto, tive o cuidado de referir que era apenas um exemplo.
Mas se tiveres algumas dúvidas, em relação, por exemplo, ao tempo de Tito, aconselho-te a ver com mais atenção o que se fazia na ditadura comunista mais distante de Moscovo.
Quanto à Vojvodina, a questão até remonta ao Império Austro-Hungaro... Ainda há uns meses tive na Vojvodina e não vi ninguém reclamar independência, nem se dar mal com a bandeira sérvia.

CMC disse...

Caro Luís,
Por isso mesmo é que ainda não declararam a independência unilateral do Kosovo.
Os tempos são outros.

Pedro Sá disse...

1. É evidente que o Tito não era santinho nenhum. Mas se existia alguma discriminação na Jugoslávia era dos sérvios contra os outros. Aliás, os sérvios sozinhos eram cerca de 50% da Jugoslávia.

2. Eu não falei da independência da Vojvodina. Apenas utilizei um argumento ridículo do nacionalismo sérvio. Mas ainda me lembro da camarada Slađana Vosha, da Vojvodina, dizer em 2001 que não se importava que a chamassem jugoslava, mas sérvia nem pensar nisso.

3. A independência unilateral do Kosovo ainda não foi declarada por razões mais relevantes até que o peso da Rússia:

Uma independência unilateral traria muito provavelmente a guerra à região de novo, coisa em que ninguém está interessado. E atenção que actualmente a Bulgária, a Roménia e a Hungria são países da União Europeia...

Aliás, eu sempre tenho dito. A independência do Kosovo é uma inevitabilidade a prazo, mas ela deve ser efectuada em termos pactuais, no quadro de uma solução que não humilhe a Sérvia. E sim, é possível alcançar tal solução !

CMC disse...

Caro Pedro,
Independência do Kosovo sem humilhar a Sérvia é a quadratura do círculo!

Pedro Sá disse...

1. Parece ser a quadratura do círculo. Parece.

2. Facto é que não existem condições para que o povo kosovar faça parte de um Estado sérvio.

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